Speedo Posted April 28, 2015 Share Posted April 28, 2015 Hi all, I have never posted before but I am looking for a little help. I have been putting together an application for Immigration for over a year now. I am a fully qualified Secondary Teacher and I have successfully had my skills approved by AITSL. For my IELTS (I had to sit it 3 times) I got L.8, W.8.5, S.8.5 and R.7 - this results in my English being proficient. I am currently sitting at 55 points but after 5 more months I will have 3 years experience as a teacher and will attain 5 more points, increasing my overall points score to 60 - whoo hoo - My questions are: Is my IELTS score high enough for skilled migration? Will 60 be enough for a secondary school teacher 189 visa or do I need to try and attain more points? Does it matter what my secondary teacher subject specialist is, i.e. is there a higher priority for English teachers over PE for example? Are there any other teachers out there that have achieved successful migration as it seems impossible? I am struggling a bit with the red tape and feel like my dream is very hard to reach at the moment. Any help would be much appreciated. Thanks in advance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scattley Posted April 28, 2015 Share Posted April 28, 2015 Immigration does not care about what subjects you teach but when it comes to actually getting a job, neither English or PE teachers are in demand. Rather science, mathematics teachers who also can teach ethics (the state school version of religious education) are what is in demand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benj1980 Posted April 29, 2015 Share Posted April 29, 2015 Presumably the subjects in demand will vary from state to state as well? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liseylooau Posted April 29, 2015 Share Posted April 29, 2015 Hi all, I have never posted before but I am looking for a little help. I have been putting together an application for Immigration for over a year now. I am a fully qualified Secondary Teacher and I have successfully had my skills approved by AITSL. For my IELTS (I had to sit it 3 times) I got L.8, W.8.5, S.8.5 and R.7 - this results in my English being proficient. I am currently sitting at 55 points but after 5 more months I will have 3 years experience as a teacher and will attain 5 more points, increasing my overall points score to 60 - whoo hoo - My questions are: Is my IELTS score high enough for skilled migration? Will 60 be enough for a secondary school teacher 189 visa or do I need to try and attain more points? Does it matter what my secondary teacher subject specialist is, i.e. is there a higher priority for English teachers over PE for example? Are there any other teachers out there that have achieved successful migration as it seems impossible? I am struggling a bit with the red tape and feel like my dream is very hard to reach at the moment. Any help would be much appreciated. Thanks in advance Hi Speedo I have just been granted 189 today as a Secondary teacher. It has been pretty straight forward all in all. Is doing your IELTS again an option to gain the extra 10 points? This will give you 65 then and you will probably get an invitation quicker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammy1 Posted April 29, 2015 Share Posted April 29, 2015 (edited) Science, Maths and Design and Technology secondary teachers are in demand Australia wide. Design and Technology is the largest growing area out of all of them. Private schools are the only schools that seek Religious Education teachers. English tends to vary and Phys Ed is pretty constant. Hight school trained Phys Ed teachers often find employment in primary schools. Edited April 29, 2015 by Sammy1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Speedo Posted April 29, 2015 Author Share Posted April 29, 2015 Hi all, Thanks very much for replying. Any information given is really valuable. I have phoned around a few migration agents and they always try and charge and extortionate amount of money to answer questions. Liseylooau - Great news! Well done on being granted a visa. I have thought about doing IELTS again, and probably would have if I got a 7.5 in the reading, but I got 7.0 for reading each time I sat it. I did a lot of past papers and got a bit tutoring for a sort time, it just won't move up. I think I might resit again if, when I get 60 points, I'm still not invited to apply. I I am starting to fill in the details for my EOI at the moment, with the hope of submitting it when I have the full points. I hope it is ok to do it that way. Thanks again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liseylooau Posted April 29, 2015 Share Posted April 29, 2015 I struggled with writing, I am a prolific comma/exclamation mark user. I found ITELTS T20 on twitter amazing. It really helped me to secure the key concepts (particularly with the reading part - True/False/Not Given!) Good Luck. Pretty sure you are ok to fill out the EOI - just don't submit until you secure your points! x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jnozza11 Posted April 29, 2015 Share Posted April 29, 2015 Hi all, I have never posted before but I am looking for a little help. I have been putting together an application for Immigration for over a year now. I am a fully qualified Secondary Teacher and I have successfully had my skills approved by AITSL. For my IELTS (I had to sit it 3 times) I got L.8, W.8.5, S.8.5 and R.7 - this results in my English being proficient. I am currently sitting at 55 points but after 5 more months I will have 3 years experience as a teacher and will attain 5 more points, increasing my overall points score to 60 - whoo hoo - My questions are: Is my IELTS score high enough for skilled migration? Will 60 be enough for a secondary school teacher 189 visa or do I need to try and attain more points? Does it matter what my secondary teacher subject specialist is, i.e. is there a higher priority for English teachers over PE for example? Are there any other teachers out there that have achieved successful migration as it seems impossible? I am struggling a bit with the red tape and feel like my dream is very hard to reach at the moment. Any help would be much appreciated. Thanks in advance Hi Speedo, I am in EXACTLY the same situation as you. I currently have 55 points and have had my skills assessed successfully by AITSL. I failed to get four 8's in my IELTS even after four attemts which was extrememly frustrating. On Aug 25th I too will have three years teaching experience and intend to re-start the process immediately after this date. I am with the migration agency Go Matilda. I have been happy with what they have done so far. I do not mind spending the extra money as I would not trust myself with the paperwork. What is your plan? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adonjio Posted April 29, 2015 Share Posted April 29, 2015 Hi Speedo, I'm also a 2ndary teacher and I applied recently for 189 with 60points. I did Ielts twice (English is not my 1st language) so I could claim 10 points. Although I have 5+ years teaching experience, I could only claim 3+years. I got my EOI invite after 1 month instead of 1 weeks if you have more than 60points. The key is NOT to claim more points if you haven't got SOLID proofs to support your claim. I could have played around with the number of months for my work experience, but I played it safe. All that matters is to get the 60points and the invite on time for whatever your plans are. As for subjects, it doesn't matter as flexibility is the rule. I'm a Language teacher but I also teach Drama here (without being trained in it). Just because I can, really... Hi all, I have never posted before but I am looking for a little help. I have been putting together an application for Immigration for over a year now. I am a fully qualified Secondary Teacher and I have successfully had my skills approved by AITSL. For my IELTS (I had to sit it 3 times) I got L.8, W.8.5, S.8.5 and R.7 - this results in my English being proficient. I am currently sitting at 55 points but after 5 more months I will have 3 years experience as a teacher and will attain 5 more points, increasing my overall points score to 60 - whoo hoo - My questions are: Is my IELTS score high enough for skilled migration? Will 60 be enough for a secondary school teacher 189 visa or do I need to try and attain more points? Does it matter what my secondary teacher subject specialist is, i.e. is there a higher priority for English teachers over PE for example? Are there any other teachers out there that have achieved successful migration as it seems impossible? I am struggling a bit with the red tape and feel like my dream is very hard to reach at the moment. Any help would be much appreciated. Thanks in advance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supercow Posted April 29, 2015 Share Posted April 29, 2015 (edited) Hi @Speedo , sorry if it seems like I'm spamming and linking to my thread, but you're the ideal candidate to go and sit the PTE in stead, and get the 20 points (in stead of the 10 you scored) for language proficiency. That will already put you over 60, plus the additional points you'll get in 3 months time, will most likely mean an expediate application (highest points get invited to apply first, if I'm not mistaken) http://www.pomsinoz.com/forum/migration-issues/231707-ielts-v-s-pearson-test-english-academic-pte-academic-my-personal-findings.html Edited April 29, 2015 by supercow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Speedo Posted April 29, 2015 Author Share Posted April 29, 2015 Hi Jnozza11, Thats superb - It's great to know someone else out there is in the same boat. I am attempting to do all paperwork myself; I was with a migration agency previously but they turned out to be fraudulent and I lost my money. I was really upset about it as I checked their MARA registration as well. I'm really glad that's not the case for you. Reading posts on here is helping me know what to expect and how to organise police checks, health checks, etc. I'll send you a quick email with a bit more info on my situation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cubiscus Posted April 30, 2015 Share Posted April 30, 2015 I don't think in general a migration agent is necessary as long as you're reasonably organised. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benj1980 Posted April 30, 2015 Share Posted April 30, 2015 Having 65 points instead of 60 means that you will go through EOI quicker (most likely first round of trying), a couple of months ago 60 points meant you had to wait a second round. Not the end of the world! However you may want your visa application in promptly if they change the SOL list 1st July? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wrussell Posted April 30, 2015 Share Posted April 30, 2015 Thanks very much for replying. Any information given is really valuable. I have phoned around a few migration agents and they always try and charge and extortionate amount of money to answer questions. Registered Migration Agents are not permitted to charge extortionate amounts. Clause 5.1 of the Migration Agents Code of Conduct states: There is no statutory scale of fees. However, a registered migration agent must set and charge a fee that is reasonable in the circumstances of the case. There is not always a simple answer to an apparently simple question. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Collett Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 I don't think in general a migration agent is necessary as long as you're reasonably organised. IMHO there is far more to undertaking the legal process that is an application for migration to Australia than being "reasonably organised." Best regards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaggieMay24 Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 I don't think in general a migration agent is necessary as long as you're reasonably organised. IMO, in general a migration agent is required unless you are very organised, a very good researcher, and very confident in your ability to understand and meet the requirements (and willing to risk the visa application fees if you've made a mistake somewhere). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cubiscus Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 (edited) The list of requirements is clear, medicals are easy to arrange and automatically uploaded, apply for police certificate(s), work references are the same usually as for the skills assessment, certify documents, upload them and give the CO any additional information as required. Yes it's in depth but decent organisational skills, and support of resources like this, should help most through. Edited May 1, 2015 by Cubiscus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supercow Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 (edited) I chose to go via a migration agent. It's just one of those "life problems" I'm happy to throw money at, to make it go away. I felt that it's a small price to pay, to be "assured" of a positive outcome (yes, not absolutely assured, but as close as I'll get to it) I wouldn't have been able to get to this point I'm at without him, as he just took so much pressure off me - I don't think I'd have been able to keep motivated without his help. He's also been answering emails and questions from me, for the last 5 years without any additional charges over his set fees! I should note that I've been a "borderline case", where I had to do an RPL / and bolster my points doing a certification course etc. , so mine wasn;t entirely straight forward ... to me anyway. If you choose to go through an agent, I can highly recommend Stephen: http://www.migrateaus.com.au/ Edited May 1, 2015 by supercow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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